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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
                        <link>https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/bx-options-class-builder-questions/paged/2/#post-102</link>
                        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@dextolen - Short answer is none more XP. 
The class builder cares only about the maximum divine or arcane spell level the class is capable of wielding. Just as you pay immediately for abil...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dextolen - Short answer is none more XP. </p>
<p>The class builder cares only about the maximum divine or arcane spell level the class is capable of wielding. Just as you pay immediately for abilities you can't use until gaining higher levels, you don't pay extra for high-level abilities you get to use immediately. </p>
<p>Bonus spells are for spells outside a spell-caster's normal progression, innate or at-will spells, or "one-off" spells available to a non-spell caster.</p>
<p>Does that help?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/">Class Builder</category>                        <dc:creator>Erin D. Smale</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If I wanted to have cleric class start the spell progression at level 1 instead of two (otherwise no other change) what additional xp cost do you think.  Would that be just be the spell bonu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wanted to have cleric class start the spell progression at level 1 instead of two (otherwise no other change) what additional xp cost do you think.  Would that be just be the spell bonus (100xp)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
                        <link>https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/bx-options-class-builder-questions/paged/2/#post-100</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@evil-jeff - Yeah, I&#039;ve been lucky enough to not have too much free time during the pandemic - if anything, work is busier, and of course, things all across the board have taken new prioriti...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@evil-jeff - Yeah, I've been lucky enough to not have too much free time during the pandemic - if anything, work is busier, and of course, things all across the board have taken new priorities. </p>
<p>I figure the worksheets will be of use only to those with the book, and since I don't want to give away all my secrets for free, I'll create a PDF with all the completed worksheets for reference and make that available to existing customers. </p>
<p>Addenda can be added here, though - there are a few items that probably <em>should</em> have been included in the book that became apparent only <em>after</em> publishing. Plus, putting those items on the site gives people a chance to comment and add their own.</p>
<p>In the meantime, feel free to share any work you're comfortable sharing.  ?</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/">Class Builder</category>                        <dc:creator>Erin D. Smale</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
                        <link>https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/bx-options-class-builder-questions/#post-99</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@erin-smale I hear ya!  I know I hit this past Sept. and lost a huge amount of momentum with things just trying to keep what mattered going through this pandemic, I can only imagine that you...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erin-smale I hear ya!  I know I hit this past Sept. and lost a huge amount of momentum with things just trying to keep what mattered going through this pandemic, I can only imagine that you and others did the same.<br /><br />Addenda to the book, here?  Please, give me a reason to come here on a daily basis.  ?<br /><br />I may put up my worksheet that I use for doing my calculations for some of the classes that I've incorporated for my game.  At least let someone else comment on it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@evil-jeff - Unfortunately, very little traction on either front. Entirely my fault for poor time management. 
On the plus side, I&#039;ve been thinking about using this forum for not only posti...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@evil-jeff - Unfortunately, very little traction on either front. Entirely my fault for poor time management. </p>
<p>On the plus side, I've been thinking about using this forum for <span style="text-decoration: line-through">not only posting the worksheets, but also</span> addenda to the Class Builder book (new special abilities and restrictions, guidelines for creating your own, and potentially new classes).</p>
<p>Worksheets will be bundled as a PDF and sent to existing customers via DTRPG.</p>
<p>I'm wrapping up a fairly intensive project at work in early April, after which I can return to this commitment - look for better progress from my lazy ass next month.</p>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://welshpiper.com/forums/bx-options-class-builder/">Class Builder</category>                        <dc:creator>Erin D. Smale</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2021 02:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@erin-smale It&#039;s been a while and I was going through some notes and came across one that mentioned the worksheets for the classes in the Class Builder book.  Any further word on them?  Also...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erin-smale It's been a while and I was going through some notes and came across one that mentioned the worksheets for the classes in the Class Builder book.  Any further word on them?  Also, you had made mention about someone working on an Excel sheet for the book.  How has that come along?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@dextolen - Heh... As you point out, &quot;rules&quot; is quite misleading... ? 
The biggest challenge with the OSE Advanced classes is how to translate their abilities - you still gotta eyeball &#039;em ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dextolen - Heh... As you point out, "rules" is quite misleading... ? </p>
<p>The biggest challenge with the OSE Advanced classes is how to translate their abilities - you still gotta eyeball 'em in some cases. For example, the OSE Advanced barbarian gets "Agile Fighting," while the Class Builder barbarian gets "Dodge." Obviously, both are meant to reflect the Conan-archetype by man-handling the character's AC adjustment.</p>
<p>The OSE version is a flat bonus that maxes out at +4 AC at 10th level. I could translate this to the Class Builder's Defensive Bonus ability, which costs 100 XP per point of AC. Normally, that's 400XP. However, Defensive Bonus stipulates "predefined circumstances or against specific foes," and since Agile Fighting is "always on," I'd consider doubling that to 800XP.* </p>
<p>The Class Builder's barbarian improves their DEX adjustment to AC based on the type of armour they're wearing (x3 for no armour or x2 if wearing chain). This isn't a flat AC bonus- it varies by the character's DEX. In fact, it only helps is the PC has a DEX of 13+. So here's how I eyeballed it: Start with Defensive Bonus (100XP / point of AC), and figure the average AC bonus would be +2 (200XP); it's "always on," so double it (400XP), but not every barbarian character can take advantage of it, so halve it (200XP). </p>
<p>How an ability manifests affects how well it translates to a Class Builder ability, so as a referee, you may have to adjust up or down. Yet, as an interesting side note, you'll see that both the Class Builder and OSE Advanced versions of the barbarian have a base XP of 2,500. ? </p>
<p>* Fun fact: When adjusting special ability XP costs, halve if use if further restricted or double if an existing restriction is ignored. This isn't written down anywhere, but it's a good rule of thumb.  </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 20:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@erin-smale - This is very helpful.  Please consider doing more of those OSE Adv. classes, I feel that some break the rules (LOL)]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@erin-smale - This is very helpful.  Please consider doing more of those OSE Adv. classes, I feel that some break the rules (LOL)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@dextolen - I looked closely at the OSE Bard and broke out the abilities based on the Class Builder:
Basic Abilities 

Prime Requisite: 1 
Hit Dice: d6 
Armou...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dextolen - I looked closely at the OSE Bard and broke out the abilities based on the Class Builder:</p>
<p><strong>Basic Abilities </strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Prime Requisite: 1 </li>
<li>Hit Dice: d6 </li>
<li>Armour: Restricted </li>
<li>Shield: No </li>
<li>Weapons: Restricted </li>
<li>Languages: Alignment, Common, +6 additional </li>
<li>Combat Progression: As cleric/thief </li>
<li>Saving Throws: As thief </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Special Abilities </strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Immunity: song-based magical effects, beguiling powers of fey </li>
<li>Skill, innate: Lore   </li>
<li>Spell Casting: Divine spells (max spell level = 4) </li>
<li>Spells, bonus: Enchantment ~ charm person (lvl 1), animal friendship (lvl 1), charm monster (lvl 4) </li>
<li>Using Magic Items: As cleric </li>
</ul>
<p><em>OSE Bard songs affect persons at 1st level, animals at 4th level, and monsters at 7th level. I've taken the easy route and equated these to existing spells (Charm Person, Animal Friendship, and Charm Monster), which comes out to 6 bonus spell levels, thus 600XP for a spell caster.  </em></p>
<p><strong>Restrictions </strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Requirements: DEX, INT </li>
<li>Max Level: 14 </li>
<li>Stronghold Level: 11 </li>
<li>Size: n/a </li>
<li>Equipment: Instrument or holy symbol (?) </li>
<li>Pledge: Deity disfavour </li>
<li>Weakness: n/a </li>
</ul>
<p>Assuming I got all the bits, the Class Builder gives me a base XP of 2,000 and the level progression looks to be that of a fighter. </p>
<p>Let me know if this helps answer your question. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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                        <title>RE: BX Options: Class Builder Questions</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2020 14:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi, I really love this book. Have you tried to work out the cost of the OSE Bard. I&#039;m struggling with the Fascinate/Charm effects of music and the languages ability.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I really love this book. Have you tried to work out the cost of the OSE Bard. I'm struggling with the Fascinate/Charm effects of music and the languages ability.</p>
<p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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